4.07.2010

Revs Content In Gillette Stadium, Are You?

Happy

According to the North Attleboro Sun-Chronicle, the New England Revolution are happy where they are (where they are being Gillette Stadium). Now I'm not on the ground there in chowder country so my opinion (as usual) may not be worth a damn but the vibe I get is that they are the only ones who are down with life at the razor.

To be clear, it's not the SSS fetishist in me talking. I had a lot to say about Seattle's decision to play in an enormodrome and no one is happier to report that I was wrong about that one than I am. But I think the difference with Seattle is that it would appear that when the soccer team came along the ownership said to the football/stadium staff something of the effect of "you now have a sister, treat her as you would want to be treated." I don't get the impression the same convo happened in Foxboro, where if we are all being honest, the Revs get treated like the ugly stepsister who lives in the basement that no one wants to talk about.

In short, an MLS team can look major league in an NFL stadium...New England just isn't that team. Am I wrong about this? Possibly. Either way my opinion is of little import as I'm not someone they are trying to sell tickets to. So what do you say Revs fans? Are you guys happy where you are?

18 comments:

Jared said...

dislcaimer: not a revs fan

That being said, I spent 4 years in Boston for school, and as a major soccer fan (and current RBNY season ticket holder), got down to Foxboro exactly one time. For the '07 Gold Cup Semi-finals triple header.

From the parts of that day that I actually remember (about 1 out of the 12 hours we were there), That stadium sucks for soccer.

Revs fans deserve better (never thought I'd say that sentence).

Anonymous said...

I think we can still complain about Seattle. The end product is just ugly on artificial surfaces. With two teams using those stadia, you'd think they could pony up the cash for real grass.

Anonymous said...

I AM a Revs fan, and the only people who are happy to stay at Gillette are the Krafts. It makes financial sense for them and it's convenient. To us fans, it's terrible. For the players, they hate playing on turf (to be fair, the new turf put in this year is the closest to natural grass yet and there's been a lot of positive reviews about it for soccer use).

I wouldn't say we're the ugly stepsister: I think we're more of a sideshow. No one appreciates more than me what the Krafts have done to bring MLS to Boston and then make it stick. The problem is, the league is evolving and the needs for marketing, revenue, and extension of infrastructure are growing as well. The Krafts don't care. To them, the Revolution are a simple and steady source of income (thanks to revenue sharing) and a tax write-off. They get to point to it and say "look at us, we're outside-the-box thinkers" but in reality they just don't see a need to make meaningful investments in the team.

In a day where MLS owners are building SSS, stepping up marketing efforts, and bringing in international stars (or semi-stars) to raise the profile of the clubs and the game, the Krafts are stuck in the 1999 mode of just trying to put the team on the field. 9 straight seasons of playoff appearances without breaking the bank or changing the formula hasn't helped sway them, either.

But trust me, we don't like it at Gillette. Robert and Jonathan Kraft do. Actually, I wrote a bit about this for American Soccer News in my Corner Stoehr column on the Revs page. I won't link it out of respect for someone else's blog, but it's not hard to find if you go to that page.

Brian said...

@Anon, I completely agree. The turf made the quality of play at the MLS Cup god-awful. It's time to get some grass. It's like it wouldn't grow in Seattle.

revsfan said...

I'm really torn on the Revs getting an SSS. It would be fantastic to never play on football lines or turf again. It would be great to be in the city and for attendance to skyrocket.

That said, I live ten minutes from Gillette and would never have gotten season tickets back in 1998 if the Revs were playing anywhere else. I also hate driving long distances, so it might be hard to keep my season tickets.

However, for the good of the club, I think an SSS is needed. I'm just hoping its south of Boston.

Phil said...

I am a Revs fan as well, and I would echo @Anon's comments. I believe the Krafts are looking at building a SSS, but they are conservative business people. This means they won't pull the trigger until they feel they have the right situation (in Boston, on the T, not too expensive, etc). The problem comes in that they already own the the Razor, so there is no financial pressure to move the team. The team can stay in Gillette while they take their time getting a deal worked out. The complex politics of MA slows this process further. The Revs will move to an SSS in the Boston area, but it will take a long time.

Anonymous said...

revs fan here. stoehr is right, no one other than the krafts like it in gillette. obvious reasons: the place is a cavern and its a 40 min drive from Boston proper.

SF, you could not be more dead on with the ugly stepsister analysis. i used to work in the organization and can report that the Patriots and Revs share a marketing dept. The vast majority of the employees in that dept couldn't give two shits about soccer or the Revs.

As for "looking major league", that's a compliment I would NEVER give the Revs. From their stadium to their marketing to their recent policy on player acquisitions they have been bush league.

I often feel like the cards are set against you if you want to really support the team. at times it seems like an excersize in futility.....and then kenny mansally goes and cracks one from 20 yards out and you forget about all that for the rest of the night.

BlacknBlueKC said...

NATURAL GRASS > turf in a throwball stadium.

It's that simple + everything else that "I AM a Revs fan" said.

Anonymous said...

I agree with all the posts about the stadium. 12:33 was right about how the Krafts are not evolving with MLS. One good example is their terrible logo and failure to get a jersey sponsor. Some people call this eurosnobbery, but the truth is that it keeps me from being a fan. Hard to take the club seriously if the owners don't.

Anonymous said...

The krap family will never move out of the razor stadium. It wouldn't make sense in less the city of Boston ponies up all the money and land to build a SSS. I only attend one game a year, and that's for my kids sake.

Anonymous said...

The differences between Seattle and New England is Seattle has a solid brand and their stadium is downtown in the city. New England doesn't play anywhere near Boston. Their 30 mins. out in the burbs and their ownership doesn't care at all about removing football lines or covering up empty seats like Seattle does. The ownership groups and locations are night and day.


New England is bad for the league. Kraft is bad for the league. Move this team and rebrand. We need a team in Boston, not Foxborough. Kraft is the worst owner in the league. He doesn't care. The MLS needs to step in.

Anonymous said...

im from new england and a revs fan....well kinda im sorta drifting away. with all these SSS comming in I cant help but be jealous. the crowd at revs games suck because the stadium sucks for soccer. seriously i just beg for a rumor, a mention, even a shitty little drawing of a new stadium but nope. nothing at all. i now REFUSE to go to the games. last week i prayed DC United would win because at least theyre fans still cared and loved theyre team.. we both are in serious need of a new stadium.. DON GARBER COME SAVE US PLEASEEE!!!

Anonymous said...

I moved to Boston 3 years ago from Columbus - as much as I would like to support the MLS, there is no way I want to put $$$ in the Krafts' pockets. I only go when the Crew play here... the stadium is an embrassment and there is zero marketing. I see more marketing for the Breakers than I do for the Revolution. The Krafts desrve a PDL team, not MLS.

Anonymous said...

Maybe the Krafts can teach FC Dallas how to shrink wrap an entire half of Pizza Hut park and only have people sit on the TV camera view side.

Kea said...

Sorry for my lack of understanding when it comes to acronyms, but whats is SSS?

Jared said...

SSS in soccer terms = Soccer Specific Stadium.

As I've said here in the past, when applied to anyone in NJ (except for SF's family of course), it means "slut slut slut"

af said...

Same as revsfan,

I'm torn because I live 10 minutes from Gillette, but for the good of the team I think we need a SSS. If we get one it will probably be closer to Boston or in Somerville

Eric K said...

I think at some point they will get a soccer stadium in town - just when it makes sense financially. Remember how hard it was for the Sox to build a new Fenway, or the Pats trying to build a dome in Southie? The land is wicked expensive and these things take a lot of time to get done. I think they'll take the time to do it right, in the right location with the right financing, when the time is right. A SSS is great; but that fact alone doesn't always make things better. Columbus has great hardcore support but trouble drawing casual fans; FCD and the Rapids have trouble period; even with soccer stadiums. So I think the SSS is part of the equation but you have to do other things well also.